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    Hi. I am starting a blog with all things Film and Oscars (Beyond the Billboard)

    My next post is focused on Oscar winners who won for the wrong role but then got nominated since for a superior performance. Such as Sandra Bullock (Blind Side/Gravity) and Reese Witherspoon (Walk the Line/Wild).

    I’m mainly looking at Best Actress Oscar and this century (Julia Roberts, Halle Berry, Nicole Kidman, Kate Winslet, Jennifer Lawrence, Natalie Portman) and they need to have had a nomination since winning that is considered better.

    Can anyone weigh in on why some of these actresses were better? Or why the win was underwhelming?

    Or anyone suggest anyone else to look at (I can include 90s etc).

    Any suggestions are welcome 🙂 Thank you!

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    Julia Roberts: Erin Brockovich/August: Osage County

    Kate Winslet: The Reader/Steve Jobs

    Jennifer Lawrence: Silver Linings Playbook/American Hustle

     

     

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    Nicole Kidman’s win for The Hours was decently polarizing, yet her nominations for Rabbit Hole (sans Gold Derby members) and Lion were pretty favorable.

    Also, Judi Dench’s winning role in Shakespeare in Love was criticized for being too short, but she had high praise for both Gosford Park, Notes on a Scandal, and Philomena afterwards.

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    Also, she shouldn’t have won in either year but,

    Meryl Streep: The Iron Lady/August: Osage County

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    Nicole Kidman’s win for The Hours was decently polarizing, yet her nominations for Rabbit Hole (sans Gold Derby members) and Lion were pretty favorable.

    Also, Judi Dench’s winning role in Shakespeare in Love was criticized for being too short, but she had high praise for both Gosford Park, Notes on a Scandal, and Philomena afterwards.

    What role did Dame Judi play in Gosford Park? I must have blinked and missed it.

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    Nicole Kidman’s win for The Hours was decently polarizing, yet her nominations for Rabbit Hole (sans Gold Derby members) and Lion were pretty favorable.

    Also, Judi Dench’s winning role in Shakespeare in Love was criticized for being too short, but she had high praise for both Gosford Park, Notes on a Scandal, and Philomena afterwards.

    Judi Dench wasnt in Gosford Park. love that movie btw

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    Nicole Kidman’s win for The Hours was decently polarizing, yet her nominations for Rabbit Hole (sans Gold Derby members) and Lion were pretty favorable.

    Also, Judi Dench’s winning role in Shakespeare in Love was criticized for being too short, but she had high praise for both Gosford Park, Notes on a Scandal, and Philomena afterwards.

    Judi Dench wasnt in Gosford Park. love that movie btw

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    What role did Dame Judi play in Gosford Park? I must have blinked and missed it.

    I think they mean Mrs. Brown.

    I wouldn’t say Nicole Kidman’s win was polarizing. It was just odd in that it was short and Julianne Moore had a bigger role and was in supporting. I’d say Kidman’s win was sort of considered deserved in that she was good in the film and the year before had had a very big year with Moulin Rouge and The Others (which I consider her best performance ever.)—plus Tom Cruise dumped her which made her sympathetic.

    To answer your original question I don’t think too many actresses from the this century or the nineties fall into what you are looking for. Sandra Bullock has already been said and that is the best example I can think of. She got kind of an odd controversial win for The Blind Side which was considered more of just a career thing and that she was a likable movie presence for a long time (as she said in her speech, “did I earn this or just wear you down.”) But than a few years later she gave a genuinely Oscar worthy performance in Gravity.

    Reese Witherspoon could count too. She was better in Wild than in Walk the Line but I don’t think she was Oscar worthy in either frankly.

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    In all seriousness Kate and Meryl should’ve won before their wins this century, for Enternal Sunshine & Doubt, respectively

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    tom92
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    Perhaps I could reframe the question then to include better previous nominations but I was hoping for a a different take than that.

    Thanks for all the suggestions so far!

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    In other categories a real redemption was Marisa Tomei getting two more nominations after My Cousin Vinny. I thought she was fantastic in Vinny but there was talk that she didn’t deserve it (comedy etc.) or even more outlandish that Jack Palance got confused in just said the last of the nominees again as the winner. (seemed like that was impossible but…La La Land.)

    Then Tomei’s career kind of stalled and there really was talk that she was a fluke but the In the Bedroom and The Wrestler nominations changed all that.

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    I completely disagree about Kate Winslet, Jennifer Lawrence, Nicole Kidman and Reese Witherspoon and I think that the vast majority agrees with me, they all won for the right roles. Kidman and Winslet have equally good nominated roles, but all of them were before the win and not after like this topic requires.

    On the contrary, I think that everyone agrees that Judy Dench and Sandra Bullock were better in their posterior nominations. Dench is perfect in Shakespeare in Love, the issue is that the role is too small.

    And thanks God that no one won for American Hustle, I think that this is the only recently nominated movie that almost everyone hates and cannot understand his critical and award success, even Academy members seems to regret it since they gave the movie 0 wins after 10 nominations, it will remain mystery.

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    In other categories a real redemption was Marisa Tomei getting two more nominations after My Cousin Vinny. I thought she was fantastic in Vinny but there was talk that she didn’t deserve it (comedy etc.) or even more outlandish that Jack Palance got confused in just said the last of the nominees again as the winner. (seemed like that was impossible but…La La Land.)

    Then Tomei’s career kind of stalled and there really was talk that she was a fluke but the In the Bedroom and The Wrestler nominations changed all that.

    Tomei’s Oscar win will never sit well with me. And in the grand scheme of things it should make everyone uncomfortable for how unexpected it was when it happened and how it shaped our conversations about award races afterwards. She did not deserve the backlash she received. There was definitely cruel industry sexism at play to dispose of her at the critical and commercial disappointments of followup lead acting vehicles for her. But being a reliable character actress made her so unsuspecting for those followup nods. I believe she’ll win again to silence the noise once and for all.

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